Is Satan Jesus in disguise?
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Is Satan Jesus in disguise?
Fascinating argument:
Consider also another few "facts" about "demons" and Jesus:
1. They answer to their master. Whose name do they answer to? Jesus.
2. They drive people where? To Christianity. Not away from it, but to it.
3. These "demons" and this "satan" is beyond 6k years old, but in all
that time, have not learned to drive people AWAY from the belief they
are supposedly trying to get people to stay away from.
4. Christians like to call it "convicted" when an unbeliever is in
distress, yet it's more like "tormented." This is a loving "God" going
around tormenting people...
5. Jesus said he came to bring not peace, but a sword.
6. Jesus said that a man's enemies, due to following Jesus, would be the
members of his own household-- Jesus came to destroy families.
7. One must hate one's father, mother, and children in order to follow
Jesus. But hey, if we redefine the word "hate," we can make this one
okay.
8. What was Satan's "sin"? Wanting to be above God. The NT sets worship
of Jesus above worship of Jesus' father-- which is supposedly God. But
of course, this is okay, because Jesus is God... As Satan tries to
convince people.
9. The Bible says that God cannot be tempted. Yet Jesus was tempted.
10 Who was he tempted by? By Satan, who offered Jesus "all this," but
Jesus refused because he wanted to be worshiped as a god, not to be
simply a ruler... the Jews expected a ruler, but Jesus didn't want to be
a ruler, he wanted to be a God.
The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed
develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the
thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out
of concern for all beings. -Buddha.
Success is a matter of a few simple disciplines, practiced every day. Failure is a few errors in judgment, repeated every day.
- Jim Rohn
Think ritual abuse doesn't really happen? Think again: [link to ritualabuseexposed.wordpress.com] True story of ritual abuse.
The more you study the bLible without trying to excuse away the atrocities and horrors of it, the more 'demonic' it looks, actually.
Consider that the "god" of the bLible is really a hideous, monstrous
thing that lusts for blood, death, and gore. It lusts for the suffering
of humans through the entire OT. And then it creates the "perfect"
sacrifice in Jesus.
For what purpose?
Death.
But not just death. Death and blood.
Listen to some Christians sometime, and hear all about how thrilled they are to be "covered by the blood of Jesus."
They drink this blood, even eat his flesh, in "communion" with this bloodthirsty, murderous, vengeful, vicious "god."
The bLible LIBELS the Divine in horrific ways. Makes God out to be one
of the worst mass murdering psychopaths EVER. Puts every single human
being, or human institution, to utter shame.
The tortures of the Crusades were nothing in comparison to this "god" and his atrocities.
And Jesus is what?
Jesus IS the avatar of this "god," and Jesus was anything but sinless,
if you read the bLible without a desire to excuse it all away.
He deliberately uses his status as a Rabbi to steal a donkey for his own
self-aggrandizement. Now, if anyone else did this, it would be
atrocious and obviously insanely despotic and crooked.
But what is the excuse for this? Well, it was HIS donkey anyway...
everything is "HIS" so if he takes something through illicit and
dishonest means, it doesn't matter-- it belonged to him to begin with.
OR, some will excuse it away as "The Lord has need of it" being truth,
despite the FACT that this phrase was meant to confiscate things or
CHURCH use, not for some dude to use it to aggrandize himself.
Ultimately, the bLible shows Jesus and "god" to be both pretty monstrous.
I mean, Jesus got all pissed off at a fig tree that didn't fruit out of
season because he was coming along. It should have known, and as such,
he felt perfectly justified in cursing this inanimate, unaware object.
This is NOT a sane person. I mean, seriously.
Naturally, though, if you want to make your insane family member seem
perfectly sane, just make excuses for why cursing fig trees for not
fruiting out of season is perfectly normal!
That'll show those unbelievers. ppig
Whatever. I'm on a tare now.
Just saying, whether "Jesus is a demon" or not is pretty irrelevant to me, really, cause I don't actually believe in them.
What I DO know, is that there seems to be some kind of psychic energy or
something connected to Christianity that is VERY evil and nasty.
The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed
develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the
thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out
of concern for all beings. -Buddha.
Success is a matter of a few simple disciplines, practiced every day. Failure is a few errors in judgment, repeated every day.
- Jim Rohn
Just so you know my sweet "witch" of a friend. I am snatching your posts to add to my person study info.
You have made a wonderful argument.
Years ago... I skimmed a document where the authors premise was... Jesus is Satan, and Satan is Jesus. It was some tough reading, the guy is a
braniac... anyways...
He basically flipped the table upside down and honest to pete... my mind rolled over in my head in a damn near physical way!
Need-less-to-say.... I do share your beliefs here.
Although, I do believe in the Christ Consciousness, which seems to have a life all it's own, separate & apart from Biblical Jesus.
My spirituality is a mixed pot... and yes AC, I consider myself a Witch with Wings! So no need to call me out here.
When I first met Jesus, it was as a child. I thought that is what God's name was, so I accepted this.
As I grew, I realized that something was very wrong in 'houston', lol
Long story short, I am grateful for the background, and all I have learned during my tenure in the church.
But she is a harlot, and I thankfully, was led out of her!
Consider also another few "facts" about "demons" and Jesus:
1. They answer to their master. Whose name do they answer to? Jesus.
2. They drive people where? To Christianity. Not away from it, but to it.
3. These "demons" and this "satan" is beyond 6k years old, but in all
that time, have not learned to drive people AWAY from the belief they
are supposedly trying to get people to stay away from.
4. Christians like to call it "convicted" when an unbeliever is in
distress, yet it's more like "tormented." This is a loving "God" going
around tormenting people...
5. Jesus said he came to bring not peace, but a sword.
6. Jesus said that a man's enemies, due to following Jesus, would be the
members of his own household-- Jesus came to destroy families.
7. One must hate one's father, mother, and children in order to follow
Jesus. But hey, if we redefine the word "hate," we can make this one
okay.
8. What was Satan's "sin"? Wanting to be above God. The NT sets worship
of Jesus above worship of Jesus' father-- which is supposedly God. But
of course, this is okay, because Jesus is God... As Satan tries to
convince people.
9. The Bible says that God cannot be tempted. Yet Jesus was tempted.
10 Who was he tempted by? By Satan, who offered Jesus "all this," but
Jesus refused because he wanted to be worshiped as a god, not to be
simply a ruler... the Jews expected a ruler, but Jesus didn't want to be
a ruler, he wanted to be a God.
The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed
develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the
thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out
of concern for all beings. -Buddha.
Success is a matter of a few simple disciplines, practiced every day. Failure is a few errors in judgment, repeated every day.
- Jim Rohn
Think ritual abuse doesn't really happen? Think again: [link to ritualabuseexposed.wordpress.com] True story of ritual abuse.
The more you study the bLible without trying to excuse away the atrocities and horrors of it, the more 'demonic' it looks, actually.
Consider that the "god" of the bLible is really a hideous, monstrous
thing that lusts for blood, death, and gore. It lusts for the suffering
of humans through the entire OT. And then it creates the "perfect"
sacrifice in Jesus.
For what purpose?
Death.
But not just death. Death and blood.
Listen to some Christians sometime, and hear all about how thrilled they are to be "covered by the blood of Jesus."
They drink this blood, even eat his flesh, in "communion" with this bloodthirsty, murderous, vengeful, vicious "god."
The bLible LIBELS the Divine in horrific ways. Makes God out to be one
of the worst mass murdering psychopaths EVER. Puts every single human
being, or human institution, to utter shame.
The tortures of the Crusades were nothing in comparison to this "god" and his atrocities.
And Jesus is what?
Jesus IS the avatar of this "god," and Jesus was anything but sinless,
if you read the bLible without a desire to excuse it all away.
He deliberately uses his status as a Rabbi to steal a donkey for his own
self-aggrandizement. Now, if anyone else did this, it would be
atrocious and obviously insanely despotic and crooked.
But what is the excuse for this? Well, it was HIS donkey anyway...
everything is "HIS" so if he takes something through illicit and
dishonest means, it doesn't matter-- it belonged to him to begin with.
OR, some will excuse it away as "The Lord has need of it" being truth,
despite the FACT that this phrase was meant to confiscate things or
CHURCH use, not for some dude to use it to aggrandize himself.
Ultimately, the bLible shows Jesus and "god" to be both pretty monstrous.
I mean, Jesus got all pissed off at a fig tree that didn't fruit out of
season because he was coming along. It should have known, and as such,
he felt perfectly justified in cursing this inanimate, unaware object.
This is NOT a sane person. I mean, seriously.
Naturally, though, if you want to make your insane family member seem
perfectly sane, just make excuses for why cursing fig trees for not
fruiting out of season is perfectly normal!
That'll show those unbelievers. ppig
Whatever. I'm on a tare now.
Just saying, whether "Jesus is a demon" or not is pretty irrelevant to me, really, cause I don't actually believe in them.
What I DO know, is that there seems to be some kind of psychic energy or
something connected to Christianity that is VERY evil and nasty.
The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed
develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the
thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out
of concern for all beings. -Buddha.
Success is a matter of a few simple disciplines, practiced every day. Failure is a few errors in judgment, repeated every day.
- Jim Rohn
Just so you know my sweet "witch" of a friend. I am snatching your posts to add to my person study info.
You have made a wonderful argument.
Years ago... I skimmed a document where the authors premise was... Jesus is Satan, and Satan is Jesus. It was some tough reading, the guy is a
braniac... anyways...
He basically flipped the table upside down and honest to pete... my mind rolled over in my head in a damn near physical way!
Need-less-to-say.... I do share your beliefs here.
Although, I do believe in the Christ Consciousness, which seems to have a life all it's own, separate & apart from Biblical Jesus.
My spirituality is a mixed pot... and yes AC, I consider myself a Witch with Wings! So no need to call me out here.
When I first met Jesus, it was as a child. I thought that is what God's name was, so I accepted this.
As I grew, I realized that something was very wrong in 'houston', lol
Long story short, I am grateful for the background, and all I have learned during my tenure in the church.
But she is a harlot, and I thankfully, was led out of her!
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